How many liberals that think socialized programs are good actually served in the military?

How many of you have actually been in the military and have seen how efficient things are run. Yeah we do have the best military in the world but then again that might have something to do with the fact that we spend about as much on our military as the rest of the world does on its military, ever factor that in?



Also from my experience "efficiency" was hardly the word to describe how things were handled.How many liberals that think socialized programs are good actually served in the military?I recall the phrase, "Hurry up and wait". Nothing to do with efficiency.How many liberals that think socialized programs are good actually served in the military?
You can KEEP the health care plan you HAVE.How many liberals that think socialized programs are good actually served in the military?I served while bush, cheney, Rush and maany other republicans hid.



The VAMC has served me very wellHow many liberals that think socialized programs are good actually served in the military?
The fact that you were in the military doesn't mean you know anything better than I do.. it might give you a different perspective, but it doesn't make you superior to people who haven't been in the military. The fact is, inefficient or not, when the private sector fails to provide for the basic needs of many in society, the government should step in and either regulate private industry into compliance (when it's a basic need like health care) or should provide the necessary aid itself. I'm sure you wouldn't have advocated for leaving the government out of helping the victims of Katrina, even though they weren't the most efficient. I'm certain private rescue groups would have worked much better, so long as the victim trapped on his roof had $10,000 burning a hole in his pocket.How many liberals that think socialized programs are good actually served in the military?I hate to break this to you, but while I am a conservative, I also understand that the military is about as socialist an institution as there is. And here come the thumbs-down from the "red scare" wing-nut right fringe that have gone so far right they are no longer conservative at all...How many liberals that think socialized programs are good actually served in the military?
I am a military veteran from the Vietnam era, and the socialist programs in the United States which I applaud include the following: U.S. Post Office, VA medical care, the aforementioned military, police and fire departments, Medicare and Medicaid, public schools and colleges, national parks, our public transportation and mass transit system, highways and roadways, public libraries, bridges and tunnels, our FDA, OSHA, voters rights for women and minorities, equal pay for equal work, whistleblower protection, unemployment insurance, Pell Grants for college, the Family and Medical Leave Act, minimum wage laws, and so many other consumer-friendly services that make the United States the most wonderful country in the world---especially now that we are outing and ousting the cult-evangelical extremists, i.e., The Family (and their alterego Youth With A Mission/YWAM) or Michael Farris's nutty Generation Joshua dominionists, who had seized control of the GOP with the full intent of running a stealth campaign to take over every level of our government in order to stage a theocratic (pentecostal extremist) COUP (Goldberg, 2006; Sharlet, 2008).